Gaer Noddfa, Carno

Has been described as a Questionable Timber Castle (Motte)

There are uncertain remains

NameGaer Noddfa, Carno
Alternative Names
Historic CountryMontgomeryshire
Modern AuthorityPowys
1974 AuthorityPowys
CommunityCarno

A rectangular camp measuring about 300 feet by 200 feet, on the banks of the river Carno, immediately to the north of and adjoining the present churchyard. The line of the valla has been considerably altered, and has altogether disappeared on the site of the church. (RCAHMW)

Within its centre was a huge carn, whence my informant told me he remembered more than 1,000 loads of stone having been removed for fencing and road purposes. (Morgan)

Gatehouse Comments

This Roman camp with a large central mound has been considered by some writers as a castle but is rejected as such by Spurgeon as mound in Roman camp not a motte. However there is a strong tradition of medieval use of this site, which is reinforced by pottery finds and the location next to parish church but the tradition is of use as a hospice and not as a fortified site. What was the nature of Morgan's 'huge carn'? Likely to have been made from Roman building materials but does not sound like a collapsed Roman building. A simple clearance cairn made to make the field within the enclosure cultivatable - seems excessive labour where clear flat alluvial field all around. Perhaps a collapsed medieval tower of some sort, made with poor mortar or clay bonded - not necessarily a residential tower, could be a bell or chapel tower although the possibly hospice could have used the parish church. Perhaps a largely symbolic mound, made of rubble, for a short lived manorial centre granted away to a religious foundation before records were well preserved. Spurgeon's rejection of this as the site of medieval fortified residence should be given the consideration due to such a skilled castle studies expert but need not be accepted unquestioningly.

- Philip Davis

This site is a scheduled monument protected by law

Not Listed

The National Monument Record (Coflein) number(s)
County Historic Environment Record
OS Map Grid ReferenceSN962965
Latitude52.5569305419922
Longitude-3.53135991096497
Eastings296250
Northings296560
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Books

  • RCAHMW, 1911, An inventory of the Ancient Monuments of Montgomeryshire (HMSO) p. 11 no. 47 online copy

Journals

  • Spurgeon, C.J., 1966, ‘The castles of Montgomeryshire’ Montgomeryshire Collections Vol. 59 p. 57 online copy
  • Morgan, T.O., 1856, 'Early British remains in Wales' Archaeologia Cambrensis Vol. 11 p. 198 online copy